Hmmm...a thought strays through my mind, but I'm not too sure yet...
It did strike me as a little odd that a monarch of the sea would use a night and day simile. (I suppose the sea itself has a good view of the sky, even if its underwater inhabitants wouldn't.)
Hey Jim - night and day are very important to the ocean world. Take squid: they rise to feed at night and descend during the day. Also, sunlight feeds all the phytoplankton, without which you wouldn't be breathing yourself right now. And, I don't have to mention tides, do I?
(These are just a few serving suggestions for you).
I was thinking more in terms of its resonance for deep-sea dwellers, which is where I suspect the Atlanteans come from. If you spend most of your life in enternal night, a night/day/dawn metaphor might not be that evocative -- and in fact, Llyr doesn't seem all that engaged by it --
Llyn and Jim,
Those are all great points (some of which hadn't occurred to me!).
This is a hard question on answer without revealing some ... hmmm ... minor, I guess, plot points.
As you will see in future episodes, celestial cycles, and indeed all things pertaining to the heavens, are known to Atlanteans, and hold particular interest to both Attilus and Llyr.
This must be the second or third time I've had to tell Jim, "as you shall see". So, thanks Jim for your attentive reading!
Meaningful stories come in all shapes, sizes and disguises.
I like to tackle as many different styles as I can, both story-wise as well as drawing-wise. It's a challenge everyone may not be able to appreciate, but as long as it's my art, my time, and my efforts (for free!), it's my call.
I have more projects in the works than you'd believe. LOVIATHAN is only one, and I intend to have fun with it, which was the whole idea behind it.
I hope one of these future projects will turn out to be more obviously appealing to you.
As always, thanks for reading :) !!!
So 'Free' comics are beyond criticism?
Don't get me wrong here, I mean no ill will. It gladdens my heart that so many capable comics creators are willing to do this quality of work and distribute it for free.
Perhaps I'm just frustrated with so many young creators ( I`m assuming that you are young ) who are so facinated to the ephemera of the past. I enjoyed 'Stan the Mans' grandiose scribblings 40 years ago, when I was a child. These days the horizons seem so much wider and the issues of the day so grave that I'm baffled when people choose to wallow in nostalgia.
Make no mistake Mr Cavallaro I am elated that you and your colleagues are able to produce this work and I remain facinated by this new Webcomics phenomenon.
My very best to you all.
I'm probably a lot older than you think.
Actually, I've been working in comics and animation for about 17 years, so I'm not exactly new at this.
No, I wasn't trying to imply that free comics are beyond criticism.
PARADE (WITH FIREWORKS) was a free comic, debuted here on AIV, and received tons of reviews, both good, bad and in -between. People are going to have opinions and reactions about stuff, just like I do, and that's cool.
Speaking for myself, I'm fascinated with the work of past artists and writers because it's their work that inspired me to pursue this career and to spend hours and hours, day after day, thinking up these stories and drawing pages of comic art.
Without them I wouldn't be here.
The same way aspiring musicians learn the classics by actually playing them, the way actors still bring Shakespeare to the stage, and painters sketch the work of the masters, we comic artists have a lot to learn from our predecessors, and as such the homage can be a great experience.
As far as LOVIATHAN specifically is concerned, it's sometimes necessary to frame a story in terms of the overblown or fantastic to get to the big topics.
So far we've seen two brothers with a mysterious past and an obvious rivalry arrive in NYC, where they have to learn new customs and re-establish themselves. One seems to have suffered a great loss, and the other may have been the cause.
I find that to be an interesting set up. We've barely seen the first chapter. It's got a ways to go, and it may be easier to judge when more has unfolded.
Or not.
It's unfortunate that this isn't your cup of tea, but if you do stick around, your comments are of course welcome.
Can't help but find this dialogue interesting given some of our conversations about music. I seem to recall someone telling me that presented the choice between listening to something influenced by a major artist, or the source itself, it was a no-brainer:)
Personally, I find it a lot more challenging to produce work that evokes something from the past. Fans and critics have an idealized standard to hold the new work up against, and execution becomes critical. Luckily for us, you are more than capable of meeting the bar. I'm also confident that Loviathan, which has only just begun, will offer a fresh take on a type of story defined by comic greats.
On a side note, I have this totally outrageous Star Trek / Golden Girls erotica that has been tearing up the message boards across the web fanfic/pastiche diaspora. If you want to sink your teeth into a real project, you know where to find me.
I just wanted to add to this very interesting conversation, a few words someone relatively uninitiated to comics...
Something that perhaps goes hand in hand with the horizons being wider for comics is that the audience is also wider. As a newer fan of the form, something that's really great about reading a comic like Loviathan in a forum like Act-i-vate is that one is exposed, concurrent with reading the comic itself, to informed commentary and a description of the older artists to whom it may make a nod.
There are a ton of new comics fans out there (and I would bet this includes a sizeable segment of women for whom comics were a purely "boy" thing at the time we were growing up) who would probably never, on our own, pick up an old Jack Kirby comic and read it.
However, if we, as part of a new comics audience, are reading Act-i-vate, and we see that a newer comic we enjoy may have even a vague connection to something older, I would venture that those new fans would be much more likely to have their curiosity piqued and explore a history we would otherwise be unaware of. I can think of many fiction writers who were "gateway" authors for me to the authors they admired. In my opinion, everybody wins in a situation like that, both the readers and the writers. Same goes for this .
In short, thanks, Mike, for your stalwart commitment to the liberation of women comics readers everywhere. It's too bad you had to publish "Charlie the Chauvinist" and "Glass Ceiling/Iron Heart" under a pseudonym, but, y'know, still great work.
10:43am / Jun 18, 2008
It did strike me as a little odd that a monarch of the sea would use a night and day simile. (I suppose the sea itself has a good view of the sky, even if its underwater inhabitants wouldn't.)